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Published: 2012-10-17 09:25:49 +0000 UTC; Views: 3078; Favourites: 45; Downloads: 41
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Morgan [link] wearing her full uniform and combat gear, mostly of Russian origin.Related content
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Ise it for what?
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Ah, sure you can use it
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Would be cool to see what you do with it
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Because she's Czech? Because Russian equipment has proven itself to be sturdy and reliable over a countless multitude of wars? Because it is not maintenance-intensive while being accessible and cheap?
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Who is "our guys"?
Current czech use lots of former Soviet-spec gear and uniforms, there's still a lot of legacy left from the Czechoslovakian Social Republic, starting from the T-72Ms to the entire BVP, AMS, PRAM and OT series to the AK-inspired Vz58, Mi-35 helicopters and Kub SAMs, the recent switch to the BREN and 5.56 ammunition has more to do with standarization with the west than obsolesence, same with Poland. The Kirasa ballistic vest she's drawn with weighs around 4.7kg in her size, not much of a stretch from the 3.5kg of the Interceptor vest, the discrepancy is mainly because the US uses ceramic while Russia uses titanium for the strikeplate.
And I'd like to know how is an AK-74M or PKM "outdated". In the sense that it isn't covered in attachment rails or something? The action and ammunition are proven and work perfectly in modern circumstances, there's not many ways an assault rifle can be outdated. You mean the more sophisticated equipment? Like those Metis-Ms that scrapped Merkavas back in 2006 or the Strela-2 that brought down an AC-130 in 2003? None of the equipment she's wearing (Gorka suit, Maska-2Sh helmet, Alfa-302 radio, etc.) in this image is particularly outdated by modern standards...
Lastly, I use the equipment more as a means to give the character some visual personality than making her an unstoppable tacticool 1337 CoD Patrol operator. Warsaw Pact gear generally is far less modular, more roughly built and disorganized-looking, which fits the character more than giving her a slab of ESBI armored vest covered in MOLLE stripes.
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I didn't mention any vehicles, BTR, BMP or T-72, the latter of which has always been meant to be the cheap alternative to T-64 so no surprises that it's not up to game with the most recent Western tanks, it was never meant to be. I mentioned the very old Soviet-era missiles which have proven themselves in the battlefield despite being crude and badly kept compared to its western analogues, TOW, MILAN or Stinger. Innaccuracy of Russian guns is mostly due to the poor quality of ammunition issued as far as I know. Also as far as I know Russia has local manufacture of Twaron and boron carbide production for main battle tanks, though I may be wrong with that one, would be good to.
You shouldn't really take me for one of those people who think Russia is invincible in real life. I know what an Ataka or a Mi-35 is, I'm just saying that just because it's less efficient than gear made by the US or some European countries it doesn't mean it's literally unusable. Unstoppable tacticool covered in armor is by no means the standard, the vast majority of third and second world countries still use arrangements from the 1970s.
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Not on wheter or not your soldiers are using MOLLE getups and have triple tandem sights on their Magpul-covered M4s
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Malyutka or Falanga are no worse than other MCLOS missiles like Dagger ot ENTAC, it was much more a matter of ATGM technology being in its infancy than Russians making shitty weapons, and even so they quickly developped Fagot shortly before TOW was designed, Konkurs was more of a development. There is nothing really wrong with semiautomatically guided missiles, with the exception of Javelin anad Spike, all modern ATGMs are SACLOS... ERYX, HOT, HJ9, Kornet, TOW2, MILAN, etc, etc. It's not like they are a sign of a country's military being outdated or crude.
SAMs and air-to-air missiles were commonly fired in pairs by the US too as a way of ensuring target destruction in case one of the missiles failed to pick up the lock, not detonating, etc. And range isn't really everything that matters. Even the crappy early Dvina variants in vietnam were a rather unique system, back then there was no system that was in any way similar in the NATO countries, a semi-mobile strategic SAM. Closest around was Roland and Hawk, both short range tactical missiles. The failure of those systems in war has more to do with untrained crews and the development of new tactics by opposing countries, in Kosovo they were pretty survivable despite being outdated and achieving few kills thanks to crews who knew what they were doing. As far as BVR missiles go, you still have R-37, R-33, R-74, the developmental K-100 and others. The failure of the R-27 isn't really surprising considering that brand new US AMRAAMs in Vietnam was about 15%... a decades-old stock of unmaintained missiles handled by Africans isn't bound to do much.
That, and considering neither second 'or third world using 'tacticool' getups, it can't really be said it's the world standard, so this character isn't really using equipment that is far-fetched... wars are fought and won without that kind of technology all the time. Winning a war is a more a matter of strategic mivements, good officers, solid intelligence and morale... not
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because it dosn't suck at all ?
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maybe in the 50s and 60s but not nowdays it's not like that the issues Russian army gear had are now solved because they now bought gear from private manufacturers that have a quality that is more than enought to be considered equivalent of US gear... true they don't look as advanced but it's not the looks what counts it's the practical use and it works... for sure !
and outdated weapons ? i want to remind you US army use the M-16 that is almost 50 years old and that's actually far more delicated and easy to jam than the AK rifle family that instead keep updating and getting better just look at the modern AK-107 with recoil reduction, the M16 istead keep remaining the same as well as the M4 just outer modifications such as opitonals rails, mechanical updated weapon as the HK416 are just refused for the NMH (Not Made Here) syndrome and have just accepted by Delta Force... because special forces have the freedom to get what they want...
oh that reminds me... just like the russians... BUT in the 50s and 60s
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Is that brown stain originated from mud or a digital camo ?
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