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Abrasion, corrosion, erosion, repeat.Related content
Comments: 36
Sagacious [2005-10-09 21:00:01 +0000 UTC]
w00, love the texture and composition
It makes me think...that someone has gone missing.
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CreativeFire [2005-01-14 00:29:13 +0000 UTC]
love it! such vibrancy of colour! also the use of the vertical and horizontal line and then the curves of the chain in the composition - great - well done
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timtam In reply to CreativeFire [2005-01-15 10:37:39 +0000 UTC]
Thankyou so much! It was the interplay of line and curve that attracted me to take the capture.. I'm glad we agree.
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Helens-Serendipity [2005-01-10 16:43:24 +0000 UTC]
This is a beauty... wonderful colour, shame there's no verdigris.
A good reminder to us all
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timtam In reply to Helens-Serendipity [2005-01-10 20:57:45 +0000 UTC]
Thankyou! Not much chance of verdigris, this chain is easily 20' long and is only anchored at the top of the pole, leavng it free to swing wildly around on a stormy night. The white marks on the pole are caused by the chain as it clatters back and forth on all sides. Any encrustations would be quickly knocked off.
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Helens-Serendipity In reply to timtam [2005-01-10 21:14:02 +0000 UTC]
Shame... that sounds a little dangerous then
How's the first day back?
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FixMeNow [2005-01-07 20:15:04 +0000 UTC]
The colours are just wonderful, so vivid...and I like the use of lines in this piece, very clever shot indeed...
rust is funny, it's the break down and degeneration of a once perfect thing, and it is so beautiful
xxx
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timtam In reply to FixMeNow [2005-01-07 21:27:17 +0000 UTC]
Thanks so much for your insights here - a very clean wrap of the piece.
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FixMeNow In reply to timtam [2005-01-07 22:11:14 +0000 UTC]
hehe, that's ok my dear
it's a brilliant piece
xxx
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timtam In reply to assimilated [2005-01-07 04:41:50 +0000 UTC]
Thanks D! I love the colour too - I think I've fallen in love with rust..
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FluoroBomb [2005-01-05 18:24:38 +0000 UTC]
Composition's really good, and the textures are just fascinating. It's interesting to look at and it makes you think. Really like it
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timtam In reply to FluoroBomb [2005-01-05 18:27:44 +0000 UTC]
Thanks so much for your detailed comment - its really refreshing. I'm so glad you like it enough for a fav.. ty!
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timtam In reply to LopiX [2005-01-05 15:49:05 +0000 UTC]
Ain't it the painful truth! Thanks again for your fav..
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amelo14 [2005-01-05 14:16:20 +0000 UTC]
How can rusting generate such beauty? Without it the chain would definitely be more efficient. Without it many would feel it would be cleaner. It might even be dangerous for those who are counting on the chain holding on to whatever it is holding on to. But without it, we could never see its aging beauty. Without it, it would never have known the sea or tasted salt. Tim, the beauty of your capture is that one feels pulled into holding on to such rusting beauty.
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timtam In reply to amelo14 [2005-01-05 14:30:19 +0000 UTC]
You know I have a very simple hypothesis on this subject: The chain is caught up in a process of entropy - an ordered system will always tend toward disorder. With time, the chain is slowly losing its identity and returning to the earth from whence it came, molecule by molecule. Returning to Nature. To many, myself included, Nature is the highest embodiment of beauty - I doubt any considerate human mind could truly believe otherwise. Thus, as entropy proceeds, Nature reclaims, and the chain builds beauty, until it is no longer a chain. Look closely at any object in a state of decline, the same beauty can be found.
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amelo14 In reply to timtam [2005-01-07 15:51:56 +0000 UTC]
Tim, your scientific background has incorporated art in such a way that learning about science becomes a true investigation. The reason I know a little about entropy is because my own body has been rusting for some years. By learning about entropy and the necessary processes of our natural bodies, one is bettter equipped to deal with illness. Illness, as rusting, is a natural process which generates its own kind of beauty. One need not fear such processes for disorder may indeed be the norm. As you put it quite beautifully, "Nature reclaims us".
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timtam In reply to amelo14 [2005-01-07 19:26:14 +0000 UTC]
I'm awfully sorry to learn of your illness, my friend. I sincerely trust it doesn't bring too much hardship or discomfort..
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amelo14 In reply to timtam [2005-01-07 21:34:13 +0000 UTC]
Thanks Tim, you are kind. I suffer from a very severe form of arthritis called "ankylosing spondylitis". That is the scientific name, though more naturally it is really a kind of rusting of the body. The story is too long to write down. Let me just remind of your own words on our beautiful "Loop". There is much beauty in rusting. Perhaps I will write a journal entry about this. Let me just say a few years ago I could not walk for over a year. I had recovered quite a lot but last year I had a very strong relapse. It was when I was at my best end 2003 (going out only two to three times a week) that I took the photos you have seen here. Do you remember "The path of the immigrant"? Well those stairs I could not walk, so that is why you have that perspective. Do you remember "Fairy tree 2" in winter. That was shot from a wheelchair I had to use to go out a bit last year. But as I tell you, most of us are truly afraid of falling ill, specially when it limits our mobility. However, just as a blind person develops her listening to unheard of levels, so someone with immobility develops a greater ability to see and think. This is why I like my pictures and my G3 very much. Getting to them, was NO EASY TASK. And yes, nature reclaims us. But it does so by elevating much in us. Indeed I might just have to become more of an amateur macro photographer to focus on the greatness of the small.
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timtam In reply to amelo14 [2005-01-08 02:08:38 +0000 UTC]
You are a truly admirable human being, Andres. My respect for you grows with every comment. Path Of The Immigrant and your other works take on fresh perspective in this new light. Please know that my very best wishes are with you.
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amelo14 In reply to timtam [2005-01-08 15:48:49 +0000 UTC]
Tim, you are very kind. I hope I can live up to such words. If only I told you everything I have been able to do so under such conditions. You would not believe me! I have regained more mobility in the last few months. But you see Tim, a few years ago I was told I would slowly lose all my mobility. And almost did! And yet with a lot (I mean A LOT) of effort and help I walked again! This is an absolutely amazing feeling. It is a bit like being reborn. What happened last year was a little unexpected. Only crazy me decides to migrate under such conditions instead of staying put as ill people are usually forced to do! BUt you see I had to see snow for the last times if it ever came to worse. But I have regained more mobility. I must be careful but in a few months I think I will reach the point where I was before the relapse. BUt you see Tim, I was told I would lose ALL my mobility. I am still told that by many docs. But thankfully my body has not given up. And if it ever does, well we are all in the very same Loop. PLease, when you go out walking around taking your pictures take a bit of my spirit with you so I will go out, even if from so far away.
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timtam In reply to amelo14 [2005-01-08 16:11:32 +0000 UTC]
You are indeed an incredible human being, Andres. I could only wish for your verve, passion and determination in light of such hardship. I'm wonderfully relieved to hear of your return to better health, despite the professional pessimism of the doctors. You have my prayers and wishes for a lengthy term of that. And don't you know? You are already walking with me on my shoots - this is borne out in some of the more thoughtful pieces I bring to DA, inspired by your words and notions over the past weeks.
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amelo14 In reply to timtam [2005-01-10 14:58:34 +0000 UTC]
Oh my dear Tim. Your kindness provides movement to my tired muscles and calm to the pain in my limbs. I have met many doctors, fortunately I have met brilliant ones who have allowed and taught me about options in terms of treatment and many other things. (you know, for instance of the recent problems with Vioxx, Celebrex...). One doctor specially saved my life. He died, but I will treasure his memory as long as I live. And, my dear Tim, I must tell you that after seven months of being in a delicate situation, yesterday I was able to walk to a restaurant four blocks away from my apartment and had lunch there. And I came back walking! (Of course lots of therapy afterwards!!! Auch) I must tell you that a few years ago, the first time I could leave my apartment was to see a movie. I took a taxi. The driver was puzzled when we told him we wanted a ride to the theater which was a block away! But you see, my dear Tim, although my situation might be quite difficult, I always think about those who have become ill and have not had the opportunities I have had in my life. I think of those young children whose life suddenly is brought to an end or limited in ways which are to us inconceivable. I think of those who have gotten ill and have not had the chance to buy their own Canon G3. I think of those who have not been able to travel outside their country. I think of those who cannot paint or draw their pain. I think of those who fallen ill and have little time to even become conscious of what has happened and are taken away in a few days or weeks. I think of those who were not athletes and for whom physical therapy is difficult. I think of those who must remain inside their homes, but whose spirit can only survive in the outside world. I am grateful to have chosen my philosophical life, for I may remain inside, but the world remains to a certain extent close to me. And, my dear Tim, truly illness, if we are lucky enough and strong enough, is a learning experience like NO other. It reminds us of the need for compassion; it reminds us of our fragility and our temporality. Our modern societies can learn much from this. Our relatives can learn much from this. Our friends become so because they have learned this.
But you see, my dear Tim, perhaps if I had not become ill then we would not be having this beautiful conversation we are. Do keep in me in your prayers, wishes and walks.
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timtam In reply to amelo14 [2005-01-10 15:16:37 +0000 UTC]
Andres, I'm speechless and close to tears. With every word read, my respect and admiration for you strengthen and deepen. Your ability to take the best and the beautiful from everything and make them your own is awe-inpsiring, and you're quite correct, there is little point or use in dwelling on that which cannot be changed. Rather, we must all follow your lead and simply get on with the job, and have as enjoyable and wholly fullfilling a time as is possble while we go about it. You sir, are a true inspiration. I will never forget our friendship.
I want you to see something, I hope you enjoy. Click -> [link]
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amelo14 In reply to timtam [2005-01-10 16:11:13 +0000 UTC]
But you see my dear Tim. We must dwell on it, for we risk leaving the ill aside, hidden in hospital beds and in their roooms. We must dwell on it for there is much joy in illness as well. We must dwell on it for we must remember how Socrates died. We must dwell on it to remember how Jesus died. We must dwell on it to remember how Van Gogh died. We must dwell on it to remember how NIetzsche died. We must dwell on it to remember how the nameless in Asia have died. We must dwell on it to foresee how we ourselves will die. You know, Don Quijote was lying in his deathbed and those around him were crying. He, crazy as he was, told them that they should not cry for if they cried it might mean that they had not lived life to its fullest. Socrates did the very same thing. Tim, thank you for being there for me.
(PS. Sent a note regarding your beautiful link)
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timtam In reply to amelo14 [2005-01-10 20:16:47 +0000 UTC]
Ah yes, I see your point and have to agree, I'll need to take this with me and mull for a while. Apologies for the hurried reply, it's beyond 4am and I'm tired.
Sad to advise I somehow managed to lose your note in one of those weird dA hiccups that happen. Would you please resend it from your Sent Items folder? You can copy/paste the text into a new note and send. I'd only read it once.
Goodnight, or morning as is actually the case. See you in a few hours. Take care.
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timtam In reply to amelo14 [2005-01-10 20:34:52 +0000 UTC]
Goodnight! Thankyou, I got your note. It's safe until tomorrow.
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timtam In reply to peitxon [2005-01-05 10:23:36 +0000 UTC]
Thanks man! It came off pretty well, didn't it..
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xanda-joy [2005-01-05 06:57:58 +0000 UTC]
ooh i luv that the colours, composition...beautiful
*goes to check out the rest of your gallery*
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xanda-joy In reply to timtam [2005-01-05 07:01:07 +0000 UTC]
luv ur style think im gonna watch ya
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