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Dragon Skeleton
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Published: 2015-04-08 07:27:32 +0000 UTC; Views: 2620; Favourites: 94; Downloads: 0
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deviantetienne [2015-04-20 19:33:34 +0000 UTC]

scienceblogs.com/tetrapodzoolo…
digicoll.library.wisc.edu/Scie…
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…
www.google.com.vn/imgres?imgur…
there may be lacks in my references, I cannot find what kind or connection between the shoulder and the spine you're mentioning...
the colar bone looks a be a bit thin x) or maybe Ishould simply remove it... but what about the spine ?

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LilacJayStudios [2015-04-08 15:44:03 +0000 UTC]

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deviantetienne In reply to LilacJayStudios [2015-04-08 17:20:10 +0000 UTC]

I believe there are,
I tried to find a balance between a felin and a bat... chosing to let bird anatomy as out as I could
after that, I never really saw such animal, so it's hard to say it works for real.
however, I let your imagination fix anatomic issues for now,
... tell me, I guess you're mad with the new light saber displayed in the star wars 7 teaser aren't you ?

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LilacJayStudios In reply to deviantetienne [2015-04-09 09:13:20 +0000 UTC]

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deviantetienne In reply to LilacJayStudios [2015-04-09 10:40:36 +0000 UTC]

Well I'll be glad to learn from anyone
hehe yes I try to explore life forms aiming for flying beasts (even plants one time)
Let's explore it further !
The link with the cross blade saber, or even with the light saber itself,
I just ment I chose to be flexible on some physical (or biological) constraints,
for (mostly) design reasons. willing to make it look cool, (as I have the fully fleshed and furred beast in mind or on other drawings)
I felt like "who cares" (obviously some do xp )
My animal here, comes from genetical pure creation. Synthetised mother cells.
Like "let's try to gro it and see". It's going to live, but maybe not use its wings as we would imagine.
Actually, if I already thought of making that animal fly, I never could imagine it really flying...
Strange isn't it.

Back on the sabres, Yes, when seeing that new saber, I also felt : what the f...
But kind of accept now that some stuff work, without being logical or answering to the rules I know...
There has to be a good reason.
Or it would cut me from lots of fun !!
(I have my limits though)

In the end, I'm not saying my designs has to be accepted as such (mmm well why not ? x) hehe) no
I'm glad anyone comes to me with things to bring to help me increase my knowledge and skills,
Thank you for that,
Maybe after many many hours of researches on google fucking bones
(sorry it was a pain sometimes getting through so many useless google references)
I didn't want to read about any biological mistakes in my design,... haha
I just followed my muse jumping from one skeleton to another without any great knowledge of Biology,
knowing that the result would be a mistake carnival ! (for those who know, but those who don't will believe)
are we talking about religion ?? lol sorry

Well with all its biological mistakes, I like what it gives in the end

And

I believe some lacks or mistakes in that bone structure can be covered by the muscle structure, the breathing, digestive, (else) system
Or by ridiculous incapacities in life, making it funnier

But

I'll still push my creations making it always more real looking,
As friendly people are here to help me to.

What if you told me more precisely about my mistakes ?

(:

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LilacJayStudios In reply to deviantetienne [2015-04-10 21:27:52 +0000 UTC]

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deviantetienne In reply to LilacJayStudios [2015-04-21 05:13:34 +0000 UTC]

Seeing this
thegraphicsfairy.com/wp-conten…
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…
or this
charmeusical.ucoz.com/_dr/3/61…
let me believe nothing is "missing" for either flight or walk.
Sizes of bones may be adaptable though.
But even refering to human fourleged run :
www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aiHrk…
It's a fucked up run I admit, but it works !
And in all those references, where is that connexion with the spine your talking about ??
I guess the Bird's skeleton plays here, but I chose to keep the "Bird" reference away here.

I still have to meet specialists to have more points of view...

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LilacJayStudios In reply to deviantetienne [2015-04-22 21:09:18 +0000 UTC]

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deviantetienne In reply to LilacJayStudios [2015-06-12 07:02:20 +0000 UTC]

2.bp.blogspot.com/_QSyTAPzGJI0…
Dude
www.nhc.ed.ac.uk/images/collec…
Dude !!
upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia…
this bit bigger front bone at the top of the chest.
It seems all the rest wax useless...
Sad waste of time, I hope you learned something.

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LilacJayStudios In reply to deviantetienne [2015-06-12 14:36:26 +0000 UTC]

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deviantetienne In reply to LilacJayStudios [2015-04-24 18:33:27 +0000 UTC]

Thank you for your passionate words !
I'm trying to understand my mistakes, paying all my attention to your messages.
You don't show them to me.

- What are those so important "Bone plates" you talk about ??
You deplore my lack of accuracy, allow me to expect more accuracy from you !
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoulder…
skyview.vansd.org/dfarnswo/MAM…
books.google.com.vn/books?id=G…
Please show me that "bone plate" ! I want to understand !!
Are you refering to :
-a scapula (on my design)
-a Humerus (on my design)
-a clavicle (on my design) leading to the "sternum" (also on my desing, but out of the shoulder)
(it looks like my skeleton has a shoulder )

- Which body disability are you talking about ??
The video is to show a mecanical fact only : it works ! even for humans
Then I designed the "Chest" refering to lions or monkey like animals : It works again !
With or without the "Clavicle", the movement is possible !
www.monkeyland.co.za/userfiles…
The skull as for lions is attached to the spine on the back, not under, because it works !
I refered to skeletons that prove it is possible, but you tell me it is not.

Another question you didn't answer :

- Where is the connextion between the spine and the "shoulder" you talked to me about ??
Again, size or shapes of bones may be not "perfect", I admitted it long ago.
But despite your (minded) words I need more accuracy from you ! a next design...
I still don't see what's "missing"or "disabling" my design.
Should I concider my research unaccurate, "negligent", "botchy" just because thepanguinator.deviantart.com/ said so ?

I guess, I need to meet some specialist to find that accuracy everyone is missing here !
or maybe you can answer my three simple questions and "help" ?

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deviantetienne In reply to LilacJayStudios [2015-04-13 21:39:39 +0000 UTC]

… my naughty hatred of « reading » makes me welcome your messages like pain in the … bones
but I (almost) always end up having good constructive time reading it.

Thanks a lot to remind me about the Dinosaur reference which, looking into actual spices for creations to come in a close future, I kind on got blind on what used to be !
Yes then, Something is Definitely missing all around the shoulders and chest. I know as I had a similar comment on a previous work that something is missing and not satisfying perfectionists. Me neither in the end…
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But my main purpose, and I thank you for noticing it, was to put that kind of design in perspective. aiming a cool, « quite credible » design.
I chose to follow that previous design, only changing the type of mix.
I know still, event if, so far, I decided not to go any further in the researches and go for the show , that I will have to improve my knowledge if I want it to be 200% bluffing.
How awesome would it be to have weeks or months or more with biologists, zoologist, with living animals and (living) scientists to show me all… I’ll dig deeper in google for now

Quicly,
breastplates shoulders : Yes I’ll definitely have to add stuffs there…
Fingers and wings : I do admit that the wing claws are a perfect mark of laziness… I just thought, why not ? you got it
I considered if horses can end up with only one finger left (and the rest of a couple of others) a sixth finger was not that much of a fantasy. But still feeling uncomfortable with that idea, (yes I also find six finger is weird) I chose to consider that back of arm bone not as a finger but as some new sort of sesamoid bone (I just found it on google for pandas and moles ) or such, to strengthen the wing.
But Allow me to remind you my design here does not come from evolution, but from genetical creation. Shouldn’t it has a part of surprises ?

Now,
what if that animal is not ment to be able to take off, but only slow down their fall and be good climbers in mountain like areas ?
What if those were indeed, perfectly useless ? just there to end a finger.
What if a special bone composition, lighter as full of air and stronger with some random unknown (yet) molecular structure or something, a special muscles, tendons and catilages could fill the blanks ? or a very different size of the animal it self than imagined…?
could it make it ?
(haha I’m trying to cover the lacks…)
But still, seriously,
must « all » those problems be solved with the skeleton ?

If, indeed, star wars is considered as as fiction (sorry I’m fan enough not to allow myself saying it is one xD ,
when I see stuff like that
img3.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20…
or that
img4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20…
I feel like it may be pure… (what you say it is), they still made it « looking like » so credible !!
I find the process is very similar, trying to bring imagination to some credible stuffs, through technology for light sabers and biology for dragons.
In the end if  I easily admit my lack of accuracy and even if perfection is the aim, I just accepted to make those mistakes on the way ... for the fun

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